Stacking Bonuses Decreases Effectiveness

[AKryztov]

@crescent moon You were correct. I ran 2 different destinations, 40 flights each. The first destination I used only Spy Glass and got 18 items. On the second destination I used Spy Glass, Sky Captain, and Dice and I only got 13 items. Both were Jumbos, both were 40 flights each, both were for the same Adventure building. 300% increase got me 13 items, while 150% got me 18. Hmmmmmm. I guess I won't waste any more bonuses by stacking them since the results are worse.

 

[Madge59230]

@crescent moon You were correct. I ran 2 different destinations, 40 flights each. The first destination I used only Spy Glass and got 18 items. On the second destination I used Spy Glass, Sky Captain, and Dice and I only got 13 items. Both were Jumbos, both were 40 flights each, both were for the same Adventure building. 300% increase got me 13 items, while 150% got me 18. Hmmmmmm. I guess I won't waste any more bonuses by stacking them since the results are worse.

Yes but it can vary destination to destination. True comparison would be to redo the first destination identically but with different bonuses.

 

[LX Air - Teresa]

@crescent moon You were correct. I ran 2 different destinations, 40 flights each. The first destination I used only Spy Glass and got 18 items. On the second destination I used Spy Glass, Sky Captain, and Dice and I only got 13 items. Both were Jumbos, both were 40 flights each, both were for the same Adventure building. 300% increase got me 13 items, while 150% got me 18. Hmmmmmm. I guess I won't waste any more bonuses by stacking them since the results are worse.

@Madge59230 is absolutely right. You have to compare the very same destination.

 

[Madge59230]

@Madge59230 is absolutely right. You have to compare the very same destination.

Masters in Advanced Social Research Methods had some use!

 

[AKryztov]

Yes but it can vary destination to destination. True comparison would be to redo the first destination identically but with different bonuses.

I see what you're saying. Next time I do the one I stacked, I'll try with only spy glass and see what happens.

 

[LX Air - Teresa]

Masters in Advanced Social Research Methods had some use!

All comparisons must be ceteris paribus 😂


Edited: thanks @pete blake 😉

 

[Barkmi4 (Mike)]

@crescent moon You were correct. I ran 2 different destinations, 40 flights each. The first destination I used only Spy Glass and got 18 items. On the second destination I used Spy Glass, Sky Captain, and Dice and I only got 13 items. Both were Jumbos, both were 40 flights each, both were for the same Adventure building. 300% increase got me 13 items, while 150% got me 18. Hmmmmmm. I guess I won't waste any more bonuses by stacking them since the results are worse.

I would have to disagree. I think stacking helps - I’ve tried different bonuses to the same destinations and seen significant differences. Most conversations are held here:

Recent S3 map runners?

Good morning. I was wondering if anyone tried to fly purple maps recently? I did 25 flights to Bilbao with 0 drops. Then moved to Acapulco, first 25 flights 0 drops, then it changed and I did get 6 drops from 66 flights (total). Only Golden Dice bonus was activated. Tried to restart the game...

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[Barkmi4 (Mike)]

You have to be careful with sample size too. Did you activate all bonuses before sending the flights out? A recent change to bonuses has stopped them working on anything that is already airborne.

 

[AKryztov]

You have to be careful with sample size too. Did you activate all bonuses before sending the flights out? A recent change to bonuses has stopped them working on anything that is already airborne.

Yes, we already know about this and have taken it into account.

 

[Madge59230]

Yes, we already know about this and have taken it into account.

Have you 1* or 2* or 3* destination, as that makes a difference too. 40 is a small sample size. I agree with @Barkmi4 (Mike) , frôm what I’ve flown, they do stack. You’re bound to get differences, one off isn’t enough for a conclusion.

 

[pete blake]

All comparisons must be ceteribus paribus

Ceteris paribus. Sorry, Latin scholar. Couldn't help myself.

 

[LX Air - Teresa]

Ceteris paribus. Sorry, Latin scholar. Couldn't help myself.

Absolutely right... slipped an additional bus 😉.

 

[deepgreensea]

I think this is mainly down to sample size, with a sample size of 40 being way too small. My last S3 run was very different outcome to the first time I ran that destination, with a similar number of flights each run I got 1 drop and 5 drops respectively.

 

[pete blake]

slipped an additional bus

Busses. Wait all day then three turn up at the same time.

 

[Jackattack]

I would have to disagree. I think stacking helps - I’ve tried different bonuses to the same destinations and seen significant differences. Most conversations are held here:

Recent S3 map runners?

Good morning. I was wondering if anyone tried to fly purple maps recently? I did 25 flights to Bilbao with 0 drops. Then moved to Acapulco, first 25 flights 0 drops, then it changed and I did get 6 drops from 66 flights (total). Only Golden Dice bonus was activated. Tried to restart the game...

www.airportcitygame.com

On the last day of the event I have like 10 to 15 bonuses going so I god get maximum items, profit, and Exp.

 

[Bob69bob]

If you flip a coin 5 times and it comes up heads every time, what are the chances the next flip will be heads? Still 50%.

The sample size needs to be miles higher to even begin to compare numbers. With all the bonuses stacked, there is a 400% increase chance. For ease of numbers, let’s assume with no bonuses, the drop rate is 1 in 50. Bonuses bring that up to around 1 in 10. 40 flights is not going to produce Confident results.

 

[FarStar]

I always felt bonus stacking made them not work as well, but since the update that changed how bonuses worked a bit via length of time and also made crates have an equal shot of dropping different items they stack much better. I am not sure if it is a complete stack, but you do get better drops the more bonuses you apply.

 

[Barkmi4 (Mike)]

I always felt bonus stacking made them not work as well, but since the update that changed how bonuses worked a bit via length of time and also made crates have an equal shot of dropping different items they stack much better. I am not sure if it is a complete stack, but you do get better drops the more bonuses you apply.

Could be a matter of perception.
If you assume a base drop rate of 10% for adventure flights;
Using spy glass (150%) will give a drop rate of 0.1 + (0.1 x 1.5) = 25%
Using spy glass, sky capt and Dice (+300% total), 0.1 + (0.1 x 3.0) = 40%

So contrary to what you (in general) may think at first thought, twice the % increase doesn’t result in twice the drops.

 

[FarStar]

Could be a matter of perception.
If you assume a base drop rate of 10% for adventure flights;
Using spy glass (150%) will give a drop rate of 0.1 + (0.1 x 0.15) = 25%
Using spy glass, sky capt and Dice (+300% total), 0.1 + (0.1 x 0.30) = 40%

So contrary to what you (in general) may think at first thought, twice the % increase doesn’t result in twice the drops.

I do not think anything in general. I am speaking from the 1000's of flights I do a month to all different types of destinations and noticing that the issue with stacking may not be as much of issue I thought it was over the past 4 years. Anyone is welcome to assume what they want.

 

[Navigata07]

I do feel like the "stack effect" isn't as strong as it was when the change first occurred, but it could also just be the luck of the draw with my recent map runs. Agree that sample sizes aren't as big as they need to be, but in general, our sample sizes tend to be smaller because of the nature of the game (most cant do the hundreds of flights required for a true sample size). I've been wondering if there was a change and we werent informed