Lost Cause (not about Billy Eilish song)

[Mac Craft]

I would like to know how do you feel about cheaters in this game? I don't need lecture about everything that we don't understand we assume is cheating angle. No, I am talking real, obvious to LVL80, 500 plus star player cheating. One that is done not by planes but with DeLorean and by manual that is getting passed among the alliances...I am talking about five, six, seven...eleven, twelve, thirteen plus hundred Condor flights that need VR and Pill and huge amounts of fuel...Saudi Prince could get concern about...that kind of cheating. Cheating where 1.5, 2, 2.5 Million pax. are moved in the short time...Those players are feeling so secure that are doing it daily on regular top100 condor destinations....please check...also press last week results...same players similar numbers. Often even 100 to each destination...Is this another case for Don Quixote or something needs to be done..? I feel sad when I see people playing for several years, getting 200K pax. a week being in the same league with that other kind...Are we too busy playing not to see all this?

 

[Robbie Laker]

Cheaters spoil the game for everyone who plays it by the book. They tend to congregate in the same alliances, so I think the suggestion made elsewhere - that such alliances found to be repeatedly guilty of this should be disbanded - is very appropriate.

 

[Mac Craft]

Cheaters spoil the game for everyone who plays it by the book. They tend to congregate in the same alliances, so I think the suggestion made elsewhere - that such alliances found to be repeatedly guilty of this should be disbanded - is very appropriate.

Members of those alliances know that their members are time travelers...I was told to try from one of the top pax. producers in the game. I have the "know how" but I refuse to do it. I still believe G! will put their act together and do something more drastic about it. Situation right now is (first hand knowledge) if caught your account gets suspended for a week...solution you take your second account and you keep doing the same thing...your never miss a beat...I think six month suspension should be more appropriate...at least that will make them think about it...

 

[Pavolko_Gun]

Members of those alliances know that their members are time travelers...I was told to try from one of the top pax. producers in the game. I have the "know how" but I refuse to do it. I still believe G! will put their act together and do something more drastic about it. Situation right now is (first hand knowledge) if caught your account gets suspended for a week...solution you take your second account and you keep doing the same thing...your never miss a beat...I think six month suspension should be more appropriate...at least that will make them think about it...

This is a painful topic. The issue is that the real cheaters do not use anything related to time traveling. I personally gave up any hope that GI will/wants to fix the actual "legal" way of cheating. I have reported how it is done, I have successfully tested it myself on my support account and I have suggested easy fix of this issue to GI by adjusting the sync method between games and server. As a reward I have got 4 greenies and assurance they intend to keep the game fair. Result? After 6 months no difference, you can still use it. Actually I do not get it at all. I do not understand players doing it and I do not understand the Russian owners of the game to allow Russian players to cheat (80% of all cheaters, the number is getting lower as more players found out how to do it). I play this game, because it is challenging to climb the star ladder and it requires a lot of planning to achieve certain collections and completion of destinations.

What is the sense to cheat and get everything accomplished in a few weeks?

 

[Mac Craft]

This is a painful topic. The issue is that the real cheaters do not use anything related to time traveling. I personally gave up any hope that GI will/wants to fix the actual "legal" way of cheating. I have reported how it is done, I have successfully tested it myself on my support account and I have suggested easy fix of this issue to GI by adjusting the sync method between games and server. As a reward I have got 4 greenies and assurance they intend to keep the game fair. Result? After 6 months no difference, you can still use it. Actually I do not get it at all. I do not understand players doing it and I do not understand the Russian owners of the game to allow Russian players to cheat (80% of all cheaters, the number is getting lower as more players found out how to do it). I play this game, because it is challenging to climb the star ladder and it requires a lot of planning to achieve certain collections and completion of destinations.

What is the sense to cheat and get everything accomplished in a few weeks?

Those that I see cheating are getting high number of flights weekly with condors. There are benefits to that if your alliance finishes top 20, 10...3,2,1 you get some special boxes and nice maps ...this week on the first day someone flew 283 flights to Dallas, which with my understanding of the game is not possible...that requires 283 VR and Pill and 50,940 units of fuel. And same player does not stack he is doing this every week. The other guy 360 flights combined to two destinations...and I am talking first day of the new session...

 

[Pavolko_Gun]

Those that I see cheating are getting high number of flights weekly with condors. There are benefits to that if your alliance finishes top 20, 10...3,2,1 you get some special boxes and nice maps ...this week on the first day someone flew 283 flights to Dallas, which with my understanding of the game is not possible...that requires 283 VR and Pill and 50,940 units of fuel. And same player does not stack he is doing this every week. The other guy 360 flights combined to two destinations...and I am talking first day of the new session...

Actually it is very difficult to say where is lying the border just based on the number of flights. My strategy is not to use any greenies (if you are willing to spend some and keep it mind due to the MCB buildings there are players who does not need to buy them), so you can increase the following personal best numbers significantly (these are documented in excel sheet):

• owls - Tel Aviv (LL from Turkey and friends) - 740 per week
• eagles - Philly (SP from friends and FC from HoP bonuses/2 days from friends) - 446 per week (I used hear couple of SoAs bonuses to prolong the map for 3 days
• falcons - Canterbury (EP from friends and LOL by utilizing 8 HoP bonuses/friends) - 382 per week
• condors - San Diego (VR from friends and pills dtto) - 265 per week

I believe to make 350 flights per week with Condors is feasible if you have a lot of friends lvl71 and they trade with you gifts. Getting VR from friends is the same like for SP/EP, the only difference is that you spend bit more of HoP bonuses (each one gives you 24 LOLs or Pills if fully upgraded in my case). Therefore the weekly numbers of flights it is difficult to judge it. The fuel is not a problem, I have from space launches full warehouse = 52k of fuel (100xf20, 100xf50, 100x150 and 100x300) and a lot of unopened collections (hundreds of different types), which gives additional fuel). On top if you are a member of fuel ring, each support game gives you 2800 fuel per week. PAXs could be easily collected by using PAX pod and one VC (I am getting for one alarm 85k PAXs).

The cheating cannot be judged purely by flight numbers, but I agree to make 500+ to condor destinations with multiple destinations is suspicious or at least requires some greenies (5 greenies to get 4 pills + 3 greenies for 4 beds and you can fly for extra items to Macau freely as much as your wallet or MCB buildings allows you - e.g. restarting 6 casinos costs you 450 gold and 3600 silver tokens, if you set up alarm every 6 hours like an idiot you can get 2100 greenies). To burn 100k of fuel is legit, as well as 750k PAXs delivered, but I doubt you can make 4M or even more PAXs in fair play style. If I am not able to make 1.5M it does not mean it is cheating automatically, but I want to play for one as nobody will pay my monthly bills.

Once again not making it personally does not necessary mean it is not possible to make it without cheating!!! And to make it clear, the cheating allowed by GI is killing this game, but as mentioned before, once I start to do it, there is no real motivation to play any longer as it is not anymore about planning, but purely about the time and stupid tapping on the screen.

 

[Дима (gift)]

> the cheating allowed by GI is killing this game

What is dead, may never die.

 

[Navigata07]

I would like to know how do you feel about cheaters in this game? I don't need lecture about everything that we don't understand we assume is cheating angle. No, I am talking real, obvious to LVL80, 500 plus star player cheating. One that is done not by planes but with DeLorean and by manual that is getting passed among the alliances...I am talking about five, six, seven...eleven, twelve, thirteen plus hundred Condor flights that need VR and Pill and huge amounts of fuel...Saudi Prince could get concern about...that kind of cheating. Cheating where 1.5, 2, 2.5 Million pax. are moved in the short time...Those players are feeling so secure that are doing it daily on regular top100 condor destinations....please check...also press last week results...same players similar numbers. Often even 100 to each destination...Is this another case for Don Quixote or something needs to be done..? I feel sad when I see people playing for several years, getting 200K pax. a week being in the same league with that other kind...Are we too busy playing not to see all this?

In all honesty, it doesn't bother me much...if at all. I don't rely on coming in first on any ranking, so it's not like their cheating drastically affects me. Everything that is important to me with this game is under my control, and I have more issues with game development from GI than cheaters. No matter what you do, you will ALWAYS have someone who finds a way to cheat the system; part of the corrupt world we live in. Instead of getting stressed about it, I focus on my own game, and focus instead on putting ideas out there so that GI will consider and implement in future updates.

 

[Mac Craft]

Actually it is very difficult to say where is lying the border just based on the number of flights. My strategy is not to use any greenies (if you are willing to spend some and keep it mind due to the MCB buildings there are players who does not need to buy them), so you can increase the following personal best numbers significantly (these are documented in excel sheet):

• owls - Tel Aviv (LL from Turkey and friends) - 740 per week
• eagles - Philly (SP from friends and FC from HoP bonuses/2 days from friends) - 446 per week (I used hear couple of SoAs bonuses to prolong the map for 3 days
• falcons - Canterbury (EP from friends and LOL by utilizing 8 HoP bonuses/friends) - 382 per week
• condors - San Diego (VR from friends and pills dtto) - 265 per week

I believe to make 350 flights per week with Condors is feasible if you have a lot of friends lvl71 and they trade with you gifts. Getting VR from friends is the same like for SP/EP, the only difference is that you spend bit more of HoP bonuses (each one gives you 24 LOLs or Pills if fully upgraded in my case). Therefore the weekly numbers of flights it is difficult to judge it. The fuel is not a problem, I have from space launches full warehouse = 52k of fuel (100xf20, 100xf50, 100x150 and 100x300) and a lot of unopened collections (hundreds of different types), which gives additional fuel). On top if you are a member of fuel ring, each support game gives you 2800 fuel per week. PAXs could be easily collected by using PAX pod and one VC (I am getting for one alarm 85k PAXs).

The cheating cannot be judged purely by flight numbers, but I agree to make 500+ to condor destinations with multiple destinations is suspicious or at least requires some greenies (5 greenies to get 4 pills + 3 greenies for 4 beds and you can fly for extra items to Macau freely as much as your wallet or MCB buildings allows you - e.g. restarting 6 casinos costs you 450 gold and 3600 silver tokens, if you set up alarm every 6 hours like an idiot you can get 2100 greenies). To burn 100k of fuel is legit, as well as 750k PAXs delivered, but I doubt you can make 4M or even more PAXs in fair play style. If I am not able to make 1.5M it does not mean it is cheating automatically, but I want to play for one as nobody will pay my monthly bills.

Once again not making it personally does not necessary mean it is not possible to make it without cheating!!! And to make it clear, the cheating allowed by GI is killing this game, but as mentioned before, once I start to do it, there is no real motivation to play any longer as it is not anymore about planning, but purely about the time and stupid tapping on the screen.

Thanks, nice answer. My issue in not 1.5M pax., but if someone has city half there...not much money invested...and in one day flies 360 Condor flights, or in one week 1350 Condor flights and then next week does not slow down much...there is no good explanation for that. I doubt that someone will spend greenies to win gold box...and what is even more interesting same players don't mind being third, fourth...as long as they get their 100 flights to multiple destinations.

In all honesty, it doesn't bother me much...if at all. I don't rely on coming in first on any ranking, so it's not like their cheating drastically affects me. Everything that is important to me with this game is under my control, and I have more issues with game development from GI than cheaters. No matter what you do, you will ALWAYS have someone who finds a way to cheat the system; part of the corrupt world we live in. Instead of getting stressed about it, I focus on my own game, and focus instead on putting ideas out there so that GI will consider and implement in future updates.

I need some Zen in my alliance...join us.

 

[Navigata07]

Thanks, nice answer. My issue in not 1.5M pax., but if someone has city half there...not much money invested...and in one day flies 360 Condor flights, or in one week 1350 Condor flights and then next week does not slow down much...there is no good explanation for that. I doubt that someone will spend greenies to win gold box...and what is even more interesting same players don't mind being third, fourth...as long as they get their 100 flights to multiple destinations.

I need some Zen in my alliance...join us.

Lol no Im good right where I'm at...for that exact reason. My current alliance is fully aware of what's going on, but we don't get bent out of shape with cheaters and the like. We just put up the pax and accept where we end up.
To be honest, I dont see the point of cheating. What makes this game great is coming up with a strategy, executing that strategy, and reaping the rewards. Cheating kills that entire process, and you're not a true Airport City seasoned veteran pilot if you can't reach lv 80 the right way. Just saying 🤷🏿‍♂️

 

[LX Air - Teresa]

I knew a guy once who was very proud of his gigantic amount of power ups on candy crush or some other game of that type gained thru repeatedly crashing the game… Really??? What’s the point of that? AC is mainly about excelling yourself, feeling that you earned that final position. (and so is candy crush btw)