How to fly 2M pax week after week

DexCare said:

I said without visa center just because their bases don't have it, that's all.

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Not only do they not have visa center, they don't have adequate bonus buildings and a lot of their space is taken up with adventure buildings reducing the number of pax buildings they can have. So the math from above wouldn't even apply.

The infrastructure in their game simply isn't there to support collecting/flying a million pax in 20 minutes every week

Um, theoretically speaking, perhaps one of you long term players can validate this as I don't have the city size, resources nor experience as you all.

Under decorations, there are 10 buildings each that offer 10% pax bonus. I'm bad at math but having one each of all 10 = 100% x6 each of these = 600%, no?

Could their city only have pax buildings in such a layout where this comes close to 1 million pax ( pinky finger at mouth corner), combined with the aforementioned (alarm & ticket) bonuses?

Maverick68 said:

Um, theoretically speaking, perhaps one of you long term players can validate this as I don't have the size nor resources as you all.

Under decorations, there are 10 buildings each that offer 10% pax bonus. I'm bad at math but having one each of all 10 = 100% x6 each of these = 600%, no?

Could their city only have pax buildings in such a layout where this comes close to 1 million pax ( pinky finger at mouth corner), combined with the aforementioned bonuses?

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Do you know the range of that bonus pax, only 1 or 2 range, they don't affect all the base as the way you think

Maverick68 said:

Um, theoretically speaking, perhaps one of you long term players can validate this as I don't have the size nor resources as you all.

Under decorations, there are 10 buildings each that offer 10% pax bonus. I'm bad at math but having one each of all 10 = 100% x6 each of these = 600%, no?

Could their city only have pax buildings in such a layout where this comes close to $1 million ( pinky finger at mouth corner), combined with the aforementioned bonuses?

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You're on the right track but
- let say you have 1x1 bonus buildings that have a radius of 1. Around a 2x2 square, you could group 12 of them (provided no roads are required). That's 120%
- the next layer out, you could have 1x1 bonus buildings with a radius of 2. You could have another 20 which would add 200%. That's 320% increase.
- and then you can add buildings with radius 3 and 5 and 7 and 10 increasing that. But some will need roads

But that's building around a 2x2 square. Not covering the whole city.

Chloe11111 said:

Not only do they not have visa center, they don't have adequate bonus buildings and a lot of their space is taken up with adventure buildings reducing the number of pax buildings they can have. So the math from above wouldn't even apply.

The infrastructure in their game simply isn't there to support collecting/flying a million pax in 20 minutes every week

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You probably know better what is not and what is in my game. Funny)))))

Bonya said:

You probably know better what is not and what is in my game. Funny)))))

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I wasn't talking about your game.

Bonya said:

You probably know better what is not and what is in my game. Funny)))))

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The funny thing is that you don't even know who we are talking about and I really would like to see you within 1min use 2.5 alarm clock (half of 5 alarm clocks as you say) to collect the remaining 500k pax then make your pax increase to 1M before thinking we are talking about you

Guys I really appreciate all these calculations and attention to my humble person. But please note that several mistakes appear in your conclusions.

1. I have two absolutely separate game profiles which is actually not forbidden by any terms / rules or whatever. These two games are installed and have been always played on two different iPads.
2. So I'm an iOS player which automatically means that you are mistaken when speaking about any clones. I hate Android devices and I've never had them which subsequently means that I can't have any clones. It's really simple - you may create clone on Android and not on Apple device. At least I didn't hear about it.
3. I have visas in my both cities (they are on both profiles and installed not so far from planetariums). But it seems that no one saw them. Anyway they existed.
4. I don't have any "nests" for pax buildings just because I don't want them. As for me I prefer to move visas by myself when collecting pax and then hide visas. Sorry it's just my way to manage my cities.
5. And guys you can see that I invest real money by having a look at the cities you will see several buildings which may be bought only with real cash. Gold Subscription is in my R city from the very first day of its appearance. This is actually one more plus and it gives a lot of benefits to me.

I'm not looking forward for some dirty words as this is just a game and btw I'm not always on the 1st place in the rankings you know that. So please let us concentrate on our own targets without trying to drown one player. I see in every chat room that Rosencrantz and Guildenstern must be shot. What for? I don't see any reason to report on anyone and will never change my mind.

Thank you very much for your understanding, indeed.

BR,
Rosencrantz / Guildenstern

DexCare said:

The funny thing is that you don't even know who we are talking about and I really would like to see you within 1min use 2.5 alarm clock (half of 5 alarm clocks as you say) to collect the remaining 500k pax then make your pax increase to 1M before thinking we are talking about you

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I don’t know, I have no idea, I don’t even know ... who are you talking about here))) Stop, I can’t laugh anymore)

Rosencrantz said:

Guys I really appreciate all these calculations and attention to my humble person. But please note that several mistakes appear in your conclusions.

1. I have two absolutely separate game profiles which is actually not forbidden by any terms / rules or whatever. These two games are installed and have been always played on two different iPads.
2. So I'm an iOS player which automatically means that you are mistaken when speaking about any clones. I hate Android devices and I've never had them which subsequently means that I can't have any clones. It's really simple - you may create clone on Android and not on Apple device. At least I didn't hear about it.
3. I have visas in my both cities (they are on both profiles and installed not so far from planetariums). But it seems that no one saw them. Anyway they existed.
4. I don't have any "nests" for pax buildings just because I don't want them. As for me I prefer to move visas by myself when collecting pax and then hide visas. Sorry it's just my way to manage my cities.
5. And guys you can see that I invest real money by having a look at the cities you will see several buildings which may be bought only with real cash. Gold Subscription is in my R city from the very first day of its appearance. This is actually one more plus and it gives a lot of benefits to me.

I'm not looking forward for some dirty words as this is just a game and btw I'm not always on the 1st place in the rankings you know that. So please let us concentrate on our own targets without trying to drown one player. I see in every chat room that Rosencrantz and Guildenstern must be shot. What for? I don't see any reason to report on anyone and will never change my mind.

Thank you very much for your understanding, indeed.

BR,
Rosencrantz / Guildenstern

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Thank you for your reply @Rosencrantz. I think it really helps when genuine high pax players give insight to the legitimacy of their achievements. I found your response quite reassuring and it’s obvious looking at your city that you’ve invested real money.

Now this is an interesting discussion.

The OP appears to be wondering how 2 million PAX can be achieved week in, week out (and doubting this can be done). Very quickly, this turns into a "them and us" argument - one side firm in their believe it cannot be done (without resorting to cheating) and the other side believing it is "sour grapes" from players (who have not discovered the key to such gameplay). Like most things in life the truth may lurk somewhere between the two arguments .

Time to play - I average 1 hr 7 minutes of play every day. There are regular players averaging over 12 hours per day. But then I do not have any Cloud Castles, and some players have 6 or more.
Money to burn - I spend £10 occasionally for greens. No subscriptions. But it is entirely possible to spend £1000's each month to gain lots of green cash for buying bonuses and buildings. And of course some players do have CBM's.
Fuel rings - I belong to three (1200 fuel every day) - some players have over 20 rings they belong to. Thats 8000+fuel gifted every day.
Alliance maps - These are excellent Mystery Super Bonus earners. I run Jet Packs once each week, and have used Friend in Need every week since Christmas. I also have 6 unopened Fuel Catalysrt packs, and 295 unused Alliance Maps. Our Alliance (Air Angel) is pretty much getting us 2 maps a week, 3 on a good week.

I consider myself to be a "Casual Airport City player" and yet I am achieving 150,000 or more PAX each week. If I had the time, money and motivation could I achieve over a million every week? Probably. Two million if I knew all the tricks (legitimate ones)? Perhaps. But that is not what I want from the game. So I do not spend time wondering too much about who is getting more of everything in the game, cheating players rarely affect my enjoyment playing. So I avoid labelling players as cheats until the whole story is apparent - and gameplayers who are achieving highest scores are probably not going to tell me their secrets anyway.

But fair play to @Le petit prince for raising the question - it is worth discussing. Probably not worth getting into an argument over though.

You're all deviating from the real point. Pax isn't that difficult. It's the fuel that is the point. No-one can collect that much fuel in a week. Even if they have tons of fuel left from before the 100 limit, it would mean that they would have had 37.5G fuel in the warehouse to fly 2M pax every week during the last 18 months. And still have enough fuel to continue. Even if they had tons of F10000. Yes, for all newbies, this barrel of fuel existed in the past, though is no longer in the game for ages.

In my post I assumed the player speeds up all condor flights. What if no flights are sped up? Up to some months ago, there was a bug in the game that allowed you to fly more than 14 planes simultaneously. This bug is resolved by GI now, but planes that were in the air could continue flying. Assume the player has expanded the reserve hangar to the maximum. That means he can fly approximately 40 condors simultaneously. That corresponds to 30k pax in the air simultaneously. A black condor is in the air for approximately 6 hours, so you can do 120k pax a day with only 60x40x4=9600 fuel a day. With auto speed up bonus, flight duration is reduced a bit, so let's say you can easily do 1M pax a week this way. In a week, that would mean 1M pax with about 25k fuel. Of course, flying more than 14 planes in parallel is misusing a bug and considered as cheating. But, this is only 1M, not the 2M some players reach week after week.

I am not claiming that every player that flies more than 1M pax in a week is cheating. Far from. When you save fuel for some time, it is not that difficult to fly 1M pax. But every week?

Rosencrantz said:

Guys I really appreciate all these calculations and attention to my humble person. But please note that several mistakes appear in your conclusions.

1. I have two absolutely separate game profiles which is actually not forbidden by any terms / rules or whatever. These two games are installed and have been always played on two different iPads.
2. So I'm an iOS player which automatically means that you are mistaken when speaking about any clones. I hate Android devices and I've never had them which subsequently means that I can't have any clones. It's really simple - you may create clone on Android and not on Apple device. At least I didn't hear about it.
3. I have visas in my both cities (they are on both profiles and installed not so far from planetariums). But it seems that no one saw them. Anyway they existed.
4. I don't have any "nests" for pax buildings just because I don't want them. As for me I prefer to move visas by myself when collecting pax and then hide visas. Sorry it's just my way to manage my cities.
5. And guys you can see that I invest real money by having a look at the cities you will see several buildings which may be bought only with real cash. Gold Subscription is in my R city from the very first day of its appearance. This is actually one more plus and it gives a lot of benefits to me.

I'm not looking forward for some dirty words as this is just a game and btw I'm not always on the 1st place in the rankings you know that. So please let us concentrate on our own targets without trying to drown one player. I see in every chat room that Rosencrantz and Guildenstern must be shot. What for? I don't see any reason to report on anyone and will never change my mind.

Thank you very much for your understanding, indeed.

BR,
Rosencrantz / Guildenstern

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Rosencrantz's city (no visa center)
Thanks for your reply. But I just want to make this post to show everyone how many resources you have invested to the game, 3330 greens (=9 mystery box for an alarm clock*37 alarm clock*10 greens/box) for each time you fly 1M pax. With me it is acceptable number because it will be smaller cuz you have CBM, spare Alarm Clock, spare Mystery box in warehouse. I just don't like the way Bonya reply to this thread, so rude.

Le petit prince said:

Pax isn't that difficult. It's the fuel that is the point. No-one can collect that much fuel in a week.

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Pax is more difficult than fuel. This game have existed for 7 years, so if a long-term player has saved for years, each day 500 F20 means 10k fuel => 1 year is 3,65M fuel => 7 years is 25,55M fuel with the highest rate pax/fuel (speed up) of Condor is 4,41. So he can carry total of 112,6M pax, which mean 112 weeks with 1M pax consecutively if he has enough Pax to fly (I don't count Fuel barrel from the warehouse cuz it is not important anymore)

Rosencrantz said:

Guys I really appreciate all these calculations and attention to my humble person. But please note that several mistakes appear in your conclusions.

1. I have two absolutely separate game profiles which is actually not forbidden by any terms / rules or whatever. These two games are installed and have been always played on two different iPads.
2. So I'm an iOS player which automatically means that you are mistaken when speaking about any clones. I hate Android devices and I've never had them which subsequently means that I can't have any clones. It's really simple - you may create clone on Android and not on Apple device. At least I didn't hear about it.
3. I have visas in my both cities (they are on both profiles and installed not so far from planetariums). But it seems that no one saw them. Anyway they existed.
4. I don't have any "nests" for pax buildings just because I don't want them. As for me I prefer to move visas by myself when collecting pax and then hide visas. Sorry it's just my way to manage my cities.
5. And guys you can see that I invest real money by having a look at the cities you will see several buildings which may be bought only with real cash. Gold Subscription is in my R city from the very first day of its appearance. This is actually one more plus and it gives a lot of benefits to me.

I'm not looking forward for some dirty words as this is just a game and btw I'm not always on the 1st place in the rankings you know that. So please let us concentrate on our own targets without trying to drown one player. I see in every chat room that Rosencrantz and Guildenstern must be shot. What for? I don't see any reason to report on anyone and will never change my mind.

Thank you very much for your understanding, indeed.

BR,
Rosencrantz / Guildenstern

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@Rosencrantz how do you explain 13m carried in one week. Come one dude. This is about the game now. Only a few alliamces are still doing this.

Alliances used to have a real competition for top spot, with the best cities, magic squares, fuel rings and strategies allowing some players to get 2M a week.

But 13 is just cheating @Rosencrantz

Sadly we all know GI cannot detect this. So it's up to the alliance leaders doing this to all stop this.

Le petit prince said:

I might be dumb, but there is something I am wondering about already for ages. I try to understand how you can fly 2M pax week after week. I did some simple calculations.
Assume you fly only condors. To fly a condor, you need 60 fuel. To speed it up, 110 fuel. My guess is that you need to speed up all flights to reach 2M pax a week. So, every condor flight needs 170 fuel. You carry 750 pax with one condor flight, so to fly 100k pax, you need 133.33 condor flights, which means in ideal circumstances 22666 fuel for 100k pax. You will loose fuel because of bad weather conditions, so to make calculations simple, 25k fuel for 100k pax. Or 500k fuel for 2M pax.

There are players that fly 2M pax week after week. I am not giving names, figure it out yourself. So, they need 500k fuel to fly it. How to collect it? Well, assume you have good friends that send you daily F20. You have 500 friends (your friends limit) doing that, day after day. That is 10k fuel a day, so that means you collect 70k fuel a week. That's not enough, so you need to collect fuel from launches. Assume you only do red captain to get 300 fuel per launch. You get 2 water world items per launch, so every 2.5 launches, you get a gold box with another 150 fuel, or on the average 60 fuel per launch. So, in total 360 fuel per launch. You have 70k fuel from gifts, you still need 430k fuel from launches, implying you need to do 1195 red captain launches a week.

This is only the fuel needed. There is no player doing 1000+ red launches a week, just check the red leader board. Then, there is the question of the pax. How can players that almost have no pax buildings, no visa, no police station collect 2M pax in a week, week after week?

So I am dumb, because I don't understand how you can fly 2M pax every week in a honest way. Because I believe all players here are honest. Or, am I wrong? Where is my reasoning error?

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I agree with your calculations... it is impossible for a player to accumulate so many passengers in a week, you would spend at least 100 alarm clocks, the fuel thing can be achieved with fuel rings. But, the problem is the alarm clocks, it would consume a lot of greens to get them. But what some actually do is play the same game on two different devices or platforms. In one they have the main game and in another the secondary game, it is played on the secondary device and they spend everything sending planes to a single destination and then they open the game on the primary device and load the saved game from the local site, so they reset all the passengers and fuel and you can reopen the game on the secondary device but load the game from the server and send planes to fly but no longer to the previous destination and so on until the end of the week.

The game has a bug, that the flights are registered even when the previous game is loaded.