One last thing

[Josh-70]

Can I just say what a fantastic piece of research ....All I can say is stop giving them your money ,,I love this game but I can’t play it anymore ,what I will say is what’s the point what does he achieve except wasting his life on a game ,,plus don’t forget he actually plays 2 games

 

[AJ]

Like a dog with a bone, I pursued this one final time..........


Dear Kate,

I have looked at every flight destination for last week (w/c 5th March) and these are the flight statistics/weekly rankings for the mentioned player:

San Francisco - 9928
Seattle - 854
Anchorage - 3843
Minneapolis - 1106
Montreal - 1745
Toronto - 856
Boston - 5037
New York - 1927
Kansas City - 2672
Chicago - 1000
Las Vegas - 2012
New Orleans - 1782
Austin - 117
Cape Canaveral - 2094
Houston - 1854
Havana - 219
Guardalajara - 2219
Mexico City - 1854
Belize - 929
Tortuga - 894
Bogota - 199
Quito - 226
Lima - 1782
Brasilia- 320
Rio - 4320
Santiago - 74
South Observatory - 1001
Montevideo - 182
Hawaiin Islands - 72
North Observatory - 1033
Iceland - 7783
Helsinki - 2404
Saint Petersburg - 160
Stockholm - 80
Moscow - 8384
Amsterdam - 146
Berlin - 80
London - 890
Frankfurt - 1784
Paris - 2063
Budapest - 830
Nice - 2632
Barcelona - 160
Lisbon - 74
Damascus - 921
Canary Islands - 177
Mogadishu - 5731
Cape Town - 1174
Tehran - 1744
Baghdad - 927
Kabul - 1127
Delhi - 3490
Riyahd - 76
Goa - 1000
Arctic Station - 890
Nepal - 1854
Kathmandu - 846
Jiuquan - 1924
Beijing - 1051
Hong Kong - 1000
Macau - 7875
Thailand - 14225
Kuala Lumpar - 3490
Singapore - 1001
Jakarta - 160
Shanghai - 416
Vladivostok - 185
Pyongyang - 1204
Seoul - 1977
Busan - 81
Osaka - 145
Yokohama - 1781
Tokyo - 8114
Sydney - 5898
Melbourne - 1272

Total - 151377


Even if you cannot prove how this player is cheating, it doesn't take an expert to determine that they are clearly cheating and ultimately, violating your game terms and conditions. Based on the flights for that week, this player has achieved 151377 flights in a week (which equates to 21625 flights per day / 901 flights per hour / 15 flights per minute / 1 flight every 4 seconds). It's not even physically possible to turnaround a flight in 4 seconds. Do you realise how ridiculous this looks?

I wish to escalate this issue and I would appreciate if a member of the tech team can respond to me with a logical answer as to these weekly statistics for the mentioned player.

Regards.
Lowly AC Player

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Kate (Game Insight Support)

Mar 19, 09:42 EET

Dear Inferior Pilot,

I see your point and we checked this player's account manually several times. This user is playing fairly, without using any cheats.
Have a good day!

Sincerely,
Kate
Game Insight Support Team




......I give up. Obviously it is possible to complete a flight by watching it load up with fuel, watching it load up with passengers, watching it take off, speeding up the flight, watching the flight land and possibly repairing the plane all within 4 seconds. Oh yeah, and doing the same thing another 151,376 times within 7 days.

Really nice research and I just hope it results in something.
Is it just Mitlain or Mitlain & Mitlain2?

 

[Bali Hi]

Like a dog with a bone, I pursued this one final time..........


Dear Kate,

I have looked at every flight destination for last week (w/c 5th March) and these are the flight statistics/weekly rankings for the mentioned player:

San Francisco - 9928
Seattle - 854
Anchorage - 3843
Minneapolis - 1106
Montreal - 1745
Toronto - 856
Boston - 5037
New York - 1927
Kansas City - 2672
Chicago - 1000
Las Vegas - 2012
New Orleans - 1782
Austin - 117
Cape Canaveral - 2094
Houston - 1854
Havana - 219
Guardalajara - 2219
Mexico City - 1854
Belize - 929
Tortuga - 894
Bogota - 199
Quito - 226
Lima - 1782
Brasilia- 320
Rio - 4320
Santiago - 74
South Observatory - 1001
Montevideo - 182
Hawaiin Islands - 72
North Observatory - 1033
Iceland - 7783
Helsinki - 2404
Saint Petersburg - 160
Stockholm - 80
Moscow - 8384
Amsterdam - 146
Berlin - 80
London - 890
Frankfurt - 1784
Paris - 2063
Budapest - 830
Nice - 2632
Barcelona - 160
Lisbon - 74
Damascus - 921
Canary Islands - 177
Mogadishu - 5731
Cape Town - 1174
Tehran - 1744
Baghdad - 927
Kabul - 1127
Delhi - 3490
Riyahd - 76
Goa - 1000
Arctic Station - 890
Nepal - 1854
Kathmandu - 846
Jiuquan - 1924
Beijing - 1051
Hong Kong - 1000
Macau - 7875
Thailand - 14225
Kuala Lumpar - 3490
Singapore - 1001
Jakarta - 160
Shanghai - 416
Vladivostok - 185
Pyongyang - 1204
Seoul - 1977
Busan - 81
Osaka - 145
Yokohama - 1781
Tokyo - 8114
Sydney - 5898
Melbourne - 1272

Total - 151377


Even if you cannot prove how this player is cheating, it doesn't take an expert to determine that they are clearly cheating and ultimately, violating your game terms and conditions. Based on the flights for that week, this player has achieved 151377 flights in a week (which equates to 21625 flights per day / 901 flights per hour / 15 flights per minute / 1 flight every 4 seconds). It's not even physically possible to turnaround a flight in 4 seconds. Do you realise how ridiculous this looks?

I wish to escalate this issue and I would appreciate if a member of the tech team can respond to me with a logical answer as to these weekly statistics for the mentioned player.

Regards.
Lowly AC Player

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Kate (Game Insight Support)

Mar 19, 09:42 EET

Dear Inferior Pilot,

I see your point and we checked this player's account manually several times. This user is playing fairly, without using any cheats.
Have a good day!

Sincerely,
Kate
Game Insight Support Team




......I give up. Obviously it is possible to complete a flight by watching it load up with fuel, watching it load up with passengers, watching it take off, speeding up the flight, watching the flight land and possibly repairing the plane all within 4 seconds. Oh yeah, and doing the same thing another 151,376 times within 7 days.

When someone takes the time to go through all the destinations and take note(s), in order to bring this to GI attention, I wish GI would take the time to verify that this is indeed an anomally and take punitive action.

If this is legitimate, I would really like GI to explain how this is possible so that we can all learn how to fly like that.

 

[RicoB92]

If I knew how he does those numbers, then Immortals would be #1 week after week, Unfortunately I don't know how he does that but he's been reported multiple times to GI and still flying high, It's the same case as of Noxx, Just wait a bit, We will see how good he is once GI fixes the way he is able to do those amounts of flights.

So you think it will be a level playing field after Mitlain etc are banned? What about advantage Player's have who used good bug's over those who have not used good bug's. So shouldn't those be removed as well who has used good bug's as it effects level playing field for actual fair player's?
Many got Free plane's even S3 versions in last update, So they should open a ticket and ask GI to remove those plane's so that there is a level playing field against those who didn't got them, How many will do that? Anyone talked about Launch fuel bug which gave player's a huge advantage over Actual Fair Player's who didn't know it.

In my opinion there is a big gap between using the "good bugs"and actual cheating. As long as GI does not sort their things out and hand over planes to people who did not get them the right way, it's GI's problem. Same for the old launch bug, if you don't solve it, people will use it.
But people who fly over 1million passengers a week? How is it possible that GI is not seeing it? Isn't it cheating enough?
I will not say that it is a $$ thing, or a GI thing, but it's not feeling well that those people are not being caught yet. I'm sure if I go time travelling in a few hours, I'll be banned before tomorrow morning....

 

[ryder]

Really nice research and I just hope it results in something.
Is it just Mitlain or Mitlain & Mitlain2?

The figures that I have supplied relates just to Mitlain. I didn't collect the flight statistics for Mitlain2, although Mitlain2 has also completed many thousands of flights.

 

[KingJJ]

Like a dog with a bone, I pursued this one final time..........


Dear Kate,

I have looked at every flight destination for last week (w/c 5th March) and these are the flight statistics/weekly rankings for the mentioned player:

San Francisco - 9928
Seattle - 854
Anchorage - 3843
Minneapolis - 1106
Montreal - 1745
Toronto - 856
Boston - 5037
New York - 1927
Kansas City - 2672
Chicago - 1000
Las Vegas - 2012
New Orleans - 1782
Austin - 117
Cape Canaveral - 2094
Houston - 1854
Havana - 219
Guardalajara - 2219
Mexico City - 1854
Belize - 929
Tortuga - 894
Bogota - 199
Quito - 226
Lima - 1782
Brasilia- 320
Rio - 4320
Santiago - 74
South Observatory - 1001
Montevideo - 182
Hawaiin Islands - 72
North Observatory - 1033
Iceland - 7783
Helsinki - 2404
Saint Petersburg - 160
Stockholm - 80
Moscow - 8384
Amsterdam - 146
Berlin - 80
London - 890
Frankfurt - 1784
Paris - 2063
Budapest - 830
Nice - 2632
Barcelona - 160
Lisbon - 74
Damascus - 921
Canary Islands - 177
Mogadishu - 5731
Cape Town - 1174
Tehran - 1744
Baghdad - 927
Kabul - 1127
Delhi - 3490
Riyahd - 76
Goa - 1000
Arctic Station - 890
Nepal - 1854
Kathmandu - 846
Jiuquan - 1924
Beijing - 1051
Hong Kong - 1000
Macau - 7875
Thailand - 14225
Kuala Lumpar - 3490
Singapore - 1001
Jakarta - 160
Shanghai - 416
Vladivostok - 185
Pyongyang - 1204
Seoul - 1977
Busan - 81
Osaka - 145
Yokohama - 1781
Tokyo - 8114
Sydney - 5898
Melbourne - 1272

Total - 151377


Even if you cannot prove how this player is cheating, it doesn't take an expert to determine that they are clearly cheating and ultimately, violating your game terms and conditions. Based on the flights for that week, this player has achieved 151377 flights in a week (which equates to 21625 flights per day / 901 flights per hour / 15 flights per minute / 1 flight every 4 seconds). It's not even physically possible to turnaround a flight in 4 seconds. Do you realise how ridiculous this looks?

I wish to escalate this issue and I would appreciate if a member of the tech team can respond to me with a logical answer as to these weekly statistics for the mentioned player.

Regards.
Lowly AC Player

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Kate (Game Insight Support)

Mar 19, 09:42 EET

Dear Inferior Pilot,

I see your point and we checked this player's account manually several times. This user is playing fairly, without using any cheats.
Have a good day!

Sincerely,
Kate
Game Insight Support Team




......I give up. Obviously it is possible to complete a flight by watching it load up with fuel, watching it load up with passengers, watching it take off, speeding up the flight, watching the flight land and possibly repairing the plane all within 4 seconds. Oh yeah, and doing the same thing another 151,376 times within 7 days.

You got to love how Kate handles the tickets. She doesn't know what logic is. I guess she doesn't need it.
All she says is, I said so, so you shut up!

 

[Wasted Eagle]

But people who fly over 1million passengers a week? How is it possible that GI is not seeing it?

Because it isn’t cheating. Don’t mistake people flying one million passengers for cheaters.
With the fuel gathered, all pax buildings, all the right bonuses and a lot of time it’s not even hard to do.
For me 2 million plus in a week, every week, is where it gets suspicious. Way too time and resource consuming...

 

[rocky]

Because it isn’t cheating. Don’t mistake people flying one million passengers for cheaters.
With the fuel gathered, all pax buildings, all the right bonuses and a lot of time it’s not even hard to do.
For me 2 million plus in a week, every week, is where it gets suspicious. Way too time and resource consuming...

I agree, I did it one million my self few weeks, a lotttttttttttttt of bonus, a lotttttttttt of speed up and I was not cheating. I had a lot of time to play the game at that moment. So for me, it's possible for a player to fly one million and more pax in a week without cheating.

 

[A Merryflyer]

I feel very sorry for Mitlain. If you monitor his/her/they/its passenger count on an hourly basis, you will see that there is no chance for sleep. Hour in, hour out, the numbers go up.

 

[Captain WH Rollins]

I feel very sorry for Mitlain. If you monitor his/her/they/its passenger count on an hourly basis, you will see that there is no chance for sleep. Hour in, hour out, the numbers go up.

I'm betting it is a group of people, rather than just one person, all working together towards the same goal.

Regards
Captain WH Rollins

 

[Teboho]

I'm betting it is a group of people, rather than just one person, all working together towards the same goal.

Regards
Captain WH Rollins

That is why I said G! is behind this character(s).

 

[Captain WH Rollins]

That is why I said G! is behind this character(s).

I doubt GI needs to resort to that type of behaviour, since they have such a successful global game on their hands, played by millions, earning them millions.

Regards
Captain WH Rollins

 

[A Merryflyer]

I'm betting it is a group of people, rather than just one person, all working together towards the same goal.

My money would be on a "macro" software program, which would be very difficult for GI to establish. Providing them with a record on passenger numbers on a frequent (hourly) basis over say three days, might get some traction though.

 

[Arggers]

I'm betting it is a group of people, rather than just one person, all working together towards the same goal.

Regards
Captain WH Rollins

Hell I can't get them to get an account right on one device, let alone have the same account over multiple devices!!!

My money would be on a "macro" software program, which would be very difficult for GI to establish. Providing them with a record on passenger numbers on a frequent (hourly) basis over say three days, might get some traction though.

This makes sense.

It's a hell of a lot of effort for what is, in effect, only a reasonably pleasant way to waste free time, though.

 

[RicoB92]

Because it isn’t cheating. Don’t mistake people flying one million passengers for cheaters.
With the fuel gathered, all pax buildings, all the right bonuses and a lot of time it’s not even hard to do.
For me 2 million plus in a week, every week, is where it gets suspicious. Way too time and resource consuming...

Ah okay! For me, the highest numbers are only 120k, so over a million seems little bit too much to me! So that's why I numbered 1 mil! If people say it's possible without cheating, I didn't say it though!
But looking to the top alliance this week.. How the hell? 10 mil!?

 

[Wasted Eagle]

I did some math on those Falcon numbers @ryder provided.

What do you need to fly Falcon? Earplugs.
So he flies 5.731 times to Mogadishu, which has an 'always' droprate. That's 5.731 earplugs for 773.685 units fuel (speedups included) 2.005.850 passengers.
Minus all of the flights he flew to Falcon destinations (8.070), he ends up with -2.339 earplugs.
Can you get an extra 2.339 earplugs? Every week?

Not making any assumptions. Flight items don't lie, though...

EDIT: ...and you can't get extra items from a macro, can you?

 

[Wasted Eagle]

But looking to the top alliance this week.. How the hell? 10 mil!?

Indeed, that's why we all have our knickers in a twist...

 

[ryder]

....after a few more frultless messages to try and unpick this, I leave you with my final question to G! along with their final reply.....


Dear Kate,

So are you and your support team telling me that its possible to complete over 150000 (one hundred and fifty thousand) flights in one week?

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Kate (Game Insight Support)

Mar 27, 04:10 EEST

Dear Player,

Of course, it is impossible to complete such number of flights. All players who use cheats will be definitely blocked. There is nothing to worry about.

Sincerely,
Kate
Game Insight Support Team

 

[Wired Parrott]

@ryder though I must say this whole debacle is a shame, those are some amusing communications.
Your from a lowly AC player and her Dear inferior pilot, deflection using humor was their thinking.
Then we have them stating they checked and he is all clear. Yet when you state the specific 150,000
number they say of course this is not possible. Soooo which is it GI all good or a cheater?

To me it is fairly obvious that because of the time constraints some offline shenanigans with altering
code is happening. Look at it like this when you go offline and complete flights when you go back online
they sync up and get counted. So obviously the game saves info locally on flights completed when offline.
Anyone with the proper knowledge could go into that local info and change the values reported back.
It is an unfortunate problem when a game has info locally in order to play offline. I will counter that there
were ways to detect this back in the day, so I would assume it still possible. Also this is just one fairly
basic method once used there are much more complex methods to achieve the same results.

 

[ryder]

@ryder though I must say this whole debacle is a shame, those are some amusing communications.
Your from a lowly AC player and her Dear inferior pilot, deflection using humor was their thinking.
Then we have them stating they checked and he is all clear. Yet when you state the specific 150,000
number they say of course this is not possible. Soooo which is it GI all good or a cheater?

To me it is fairly obvious that because of the time constraints some offline shenanigans with altering
code is happening. Look at it like this when you go offline and complete flights when you go back online
they sync up and get counted. So obviously the game saves info locally on flights completed when offline.
Anyone with the proper knowledge could go into that local info and change the values reported back.
It is an unfortunate problem when a game has info locally in order to play offline. I will counter that there
were ways to detect this back in the day, so I would assume it still possible. Also this is just one fairly
basic method once used there are much more complex methods to achieve the same results.

Sorry to disappoint you Wired Parrot, but the use of "Lowly AC Player / Inferior Pilot" was my own improvisation. I needed to something lift my spirits in view of Mitlain's high-flying weekly achievements and I felt that literary insults to myself would provide a welcome reprieve.

Of course this is a low-level hack. They've essentially admitted that it isn't possible, but the player isn't using cheats and not to worry....arguably the best worded contradiction that i've personally received from G! support.